Notice God's unutterable waste of saints, according to the judgment of the world. God plants His saints in the most useless places. We say - God intends me to be here because I am so useful. Jesus never estimated His life along the line of the greatest use. God puts His saints where they will glorify Him, and we are no judges at all of where that is. ~Oswald Chambers, My Utmost For His Highest, August 10
Showing posts with label kissing. Show all posts
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Saturday, August 16, 2008

A Few Careless Kisses


“How shall I speak of a few careless kisses to a generation nurtured on the assumption that nearly everybody goes to bed with everybody? Of those who flounder in the sea of permissiveness and self-indulgence, are there any who still search the sky for the beacon of purity? If I did not believe there were, I would not bother to write.” (Elisabeth Elliot in Passion and Purity)

Jon and Aimee Keulen, another couple who had their first kiss on their wedding day.



I remember when Gana and I first had feelings for each other. We had known each other only a very short time when God began to plant in our hearts and minds that this might actually lead to marriage. Yet, we never really did the typical dating thing--it just didn't work in our situation. Gana called my dad and asked if I would be willing to live in Mongolia. Before he pursued my heart, he was willing to make a commitment and wanted to know if I was willing, too.





"Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life." Proverbs 4:23






I have always respected Gana for this. He wasn't raised in a Christian home with parents who taught him godly relationship principles. And yet, he knew that before he asked for my heart there had to be a commitment.






The privileges of romance and love should parallel increasing commitment. Commitment is the boundary that keeps romance pure and beautiful.





Yet, in our society we hesitate to make commitments until we've tasted a little fruit of that commitment. We view relationships as test-drives for marriage. And as Christians we know that some things are reserved for the marriage relationship, so we set personal boundaries for ourselves--arbitrary though they may be. The problem with this is, that humans are great redefiners. Say we set a line that we won't be together alone after dark. Next thing you know, we are arguing with ourselves whether dusk is considered dark or that it doesn't count as long as we are indoors and things are brightly lit.






The problem with setting lines is that we always go right up to it. Anyone who has children knows this. I tell Belgee, "Don't go into the kitchen." Next thing you know his toes are at the very edge of the carpet where it meets the linoleum. The trouble begins when his brother runs by, knocks him over and he falls into the kitchen. Human nature 101.






It's like thinking, "If it's a mortal sin, I don't want to do it. But, if it's a venial sin, I don't want to miss it!" But this is not the heart of God.






(The following from an interview with Scott Croft and Michael Lawrence. Complete interview here.)






ML: I make the analogy with baptism. We are united with Christ when we repent of our sins and place our faith in His death on our behalf. There is a union, a spiritual union that happens. Well there is a sign of that covenant union that visually pictures for us what was going on there: the ordinance of baptism. The same sort of thing is going on in the relationship between sex and marriage. A covenant union is created in marriage. The picture of that union and the thing that actually affects it — and without it, there is no marriage — is this physical union of sexual intercourse. Now then, I think it's important for us to ask what is sex? And is sex just intercourse? Well I would argue no. I would argue that part of our problem is we have tried to create boundaries and draw lines within a whole category of activity that we call an experience as sexual intimacy. And we think we can draw the line here or here or here and all Christians probably agree we have to at least draw the line at sexual intercourse. And then we get into trouble when we do that, right? When we draw our line we say OK we will go this far physically but no further. And then what do we do? Well we come right up to the line because that's what lines invite us to do. We come right up to the edge of that line and we fall over it. And we are surprised? We shouldn't be surprised because there really is no qualitative difference between the kind of activity on one side of the line and the kind of activity on the other side of the line. It's all sexual activity and God created it that way.






SC: And biblically all such lines are synthetic. They are artificial.




ML: That's right, they're all artificial, they're all synthetic. So I don't want to create new boundaries within that sphere of sexual activity. I actually want to move the boundary to outside of sexual activity. That's where the real boundary should be. Biblically, the boundary is between sexual activity and not sexual activity, not between the kinds of sexual activity we are going to engage in. And married couples understand this I think because married couples engage in a lot more than just sexual intercourse. They do all the things in their love making that an unmarried couple does on what they consider the safe side of the boundary. And they do all of that and they enjoy it and they call it foreplay. And they do it because it leads, in a same way that an on-ramp inevitably leads you up onto the highway, all of that foreplay, does a really great job of leading you onto the highway of sexual intercourse.

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I think we need to be careful not to dissect our bodies from our souls from our spirits. We are triune beings that should be approached as a whole--not just in this issue, but in all issues.




More to come....

Tuesday, August 12, 2008

What do all these couples have in common?


Amaa and Dolgor






Bob and Molly Keulen


David and Heather Knifton




Hank & Breezy Palan


Daniel & Genevieve Gillogley




Dr. Joel and Sarah-Kate Correa



Josh and Serena Abdelaziz




Gana and Daja Gombojav



Give up?


They all had their first kiss as a couple on their wedding day!


And I know many others whose pictures I wasn't able to collect. This topic was particularly on my mind lately because some Christian sex therapists were guest speakers at Fuller. A question was asked what they thought about the "saving kissing until marriage phenomenon." They, along with the professor on hand, agreed that it was "destructive for couples" and in essence would lead to sexual problems later on in their marriage. They said that saving kissing until marriage was no guarantee that one would have a great sex life and that saving that first kiss was something that couples use to hide their fear of intimacy. These conclusions come from supposedly counselling couples who have saved their kiss and later experienced difficulties in their sexual relationships.


Where to start, where to start?!


First of all, let me say unequivocally, that I do not believe that there is a Biblical command not to kiss until you are married. I am not adding any verses to the Bible nor saying that kissing before marriage is a sin. So, just wipe those arguments right off the slate.


Let's break this down using a little logic. The reasoning the professors gave was that some couples have come for counselling who had intimacy issues who had also saved their first kiss.


This is inductive reasoning at its worst!


(An inductive argument, if strong, brings a conclusion that is only probably true. For example: Greeks eat a lot of fish. Socrates was Greek. So, Socrates ate a lot of fish.)


Yes, it is true that waiting until the wedding is not a guarantee that one's sex life will be great. Just like waiting to drink until you're is 21 years old will not guarantee that you will not be an alcoholic. But, does that necessarily lead to the conclusion that there is no value in waiting?


A more logical look at it would be for those sex therapists to look at all their patients. How many were in some way sexually active before marriage and how many saved it all for the wedding? Now adjust the conclusion accordingly.


In all my years of church-life and ministry (and I've been in the Church all my life), I have never heard a testimony in which someone said, "You know, I really regret that I didn't kiss more people before I got married." Who has ever said, "I wish I would have been more sexually active."


And before anyone says, "Wait! Kissing is not sexual." let's be honest. It is. I'm not saying it is bad. I'm just saying that it is sexual. If it was not, why would it not be OK if I was kissing the man who lived next door. I think my husband might have a little problem with that. It would be called CHEATING! Why would it be cheating if it wasn't sexual?


From Catholic Answers: "I used to take for granted that everyone knew that French kissing is sexually arousing, especially for a guy. But I have met women who act surprised when they find out that a man is sexually aroused by passionate kissing (or before then). French kissing is deeply unitive, since the penetration of one person into another is part of becoming one with him or her physically. This passionate kissing tells a man’s body that it should prepare for intercourse, and when a man is aroused, generally he is not satisfied until he is relieved."


Is it possible that someone might actually regret kissing someone, even if they end up married? I ran across this very candid testimony called, "I Regret Kissing My Wife." In it the author writes, "It's hard to put a finger on it. Maybe it's because I kissed her just like I did all the others I had kissed, for mere pleasure, not knowing she would be my wife. Maybe it's the familiarity I had with her on the wedding day, which meant our first kiss as husband and wife was just that, familiar. Maybe it's because that familiarity affected my view of kissing, seeing it only as a means to an end, when it is so much more. Maybe, most of all, it is because my precious wife looks back with these same regrets too."


I have a unique perspective from a lot of people. My husband is the only man I have ever kissed. I truly can't imagine that having kissed others would make our relationship any better.

Sure, it was a choice we made that God may not call everyone to make. But, it was beautiful and I wouldn't change it for the world!


Interesting pondering today of all days. Today is the eighth year anniversary of my first kiss. It was about this time of day, eight years ago, that my dad said, "You may kiss the bride." If you could see me right now you would see a silly grin on my face as I fondly remember that moment. It was followed by some high-fives and hugs by the wedding party. What a great moment!


Happy Anniversary, Gana! I love your kisses!